changehistory: (I don't think so)
Adam Monroe ([personal profile] changehistory) wrote2007-12-23 01:54 am
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Meta thought of the night brought to you by my mun's trip to airport...

Small, yapping dogs carted about in strollers: Yet another reason to push the restart button on humanity.

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
Just because we can do what we can do doesn't mean I'm not afraid of them, too, Peter. *quiet* The amount of pain someone can inflict on those who cannot die from it, no matter how much they might beg for death is immense.
youngerpetrelli: (Intense)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2007-12-27 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
*shudders at the thought of it* I don't-- God, Adam, I'm sorry.

Just... don't blame him, okay? He was helping me, and then they went and screwed it all up.

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
*shortly, glancing away* It wasn't your fault.

And he left you there to deal with them yourself.
youngerpetrelli: (S2-No Memory-OOT)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2007-12-27 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
*angry now, energy starting to crackle around his hands* They have no right...

*firmly* It's not Claude's fault.

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2007-12-28 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
*glances back at him, faint frown* No, but they did. It's done now.

*shrugs* As you say.
youngerpetrelli: (Intense)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2007-12-28 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
*soft growl* We're not toys for them to play with...

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2007-12-28 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
*shakes his head*

They will never see that.
youngerpetrelli: (Intense)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2007-12-28 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
*sighs* I wish there was a way to make them see it that wouldn't make us the bad guys...

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2007-12-28 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
They are already convinced I am the bad guy, Peter, and nothing will change that.
youngerpetrelli: (Peter & Adam)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2007-12-28 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
*gently* There's a difference between them thinking you're the bad guy, and us actually being the bad guys.

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2007-12-28 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
*philosophically* Is there? Isn't it all about perception, really? Truth and history are the stories of the ones who won, who style themselves the good guys, in the long run.

If they have the power and they think I am the bad guy and they are the ones telling the story that will last...*faint shrug*
youngerpetrelli: (Peter & Adam)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2007-12-31 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
No! No, there's a huge difference... Do you just want to appear good in the history books, or do you want to be good?

ooc: sorry for the long delay in answering things -- been working on stuff with Claude. omg the care and feeding of your emo!Claude...

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2008-01-01 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Who defines what is good, Peter? Who decides, and where do we learn, if not from history? The Church? The Church is a political instrument, as it always has been, forcing it's version of morality with the whip or the flame, no matter which side of the line you are on. Is that good? Is it right to brand a woman because of her husband's accusations, because of a child who is different? What sort of "goodness" is that? And if that is what our religious leaders would do...where can we turn to find what is good? What is right?

History is all we have.

ooc: No worries! Though Adam missed Peter. *snugs him* I told him I was catching up on other things, too, and he could deal. ;-) And, err, sorry for his massively emo musings. He's been like that for a while now.
youngerpetrelli: (Peter & Adam)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2008-01-03 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so maybe I'm a naive child, but I think good is helping people when they need it. Giving aid to those who are hurt, or hungry, or sick. And I may have been raised a good Roman Catholic boy, but I think you know enough about me to know I don't agree with a lot of things the Church says...

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2008-01-03 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't call you a child. I asked a question. And I would agree those things are good. I saved a village in Japan. I saved a whole contingent of my men in World War II--even got a medal--and helped with the survivors of the concentration camps. And yet, I am still deemed evil by pretty much everyone I've ever cared for. No one sees the bigger picture, and no one can point to things without drawing lines, and all that will be remembered are the bad things.
youngerpetrelli: (Reflective)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2008-01-03 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
No, you didn't. I did. Me, and Claude -- well, he went as far as adolescent, at least -- and sometimes even Nathan. *sighs* So you'd rather be remembered as a good guy than actually be a good guy? Help me understand, Adam -- I honestly don't get it. We have all these powers -- we can help people. I bet the men you saved -- and the survivors of those camps -- thanked you. Aren't they more important than some history book?

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2008-01-03 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't...I don't know what I'd rather, Peter. They did. They said thank you and it meant a great deal. But what "help" means is all jumbled up now, with wondering why I even...

Nevermind. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore.
youngerpetrelli: (Peter & Adam)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2008-01-03 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
*softly* I'm sorry...
youngerpetrelli: (Peter & Adam)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2008-01-04 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
*strokes his cheek* It's okay...

ooc: *lol* Between the obsession with Irish!Simone and this, our boys are apparently having a lot more fun with women than either of them realized!

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2008-01-04 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
*emphatic* No. It's not okay. Nothing is okay.


ooc: *snerk* Seriously. I mean, DUDE. That's a fast wedding.
youngerpetrelli: (Peter & Adam)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2008-01-04 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
*concerned* Adam?

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2008-01-04 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
*shakes his head* I don't know who I am anymore.
youngerpetrelli: (Peter & Adam)

[personal profile] youngerpetrelli 2008-01-04 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
*takes his hands* God, Adam, I'm sorry...

[identity profile] changehistory.livejournal.com 2008-01-04 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
*shakes his head*

It's not your fault. It's mine.

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